The commercial glories of phony "censorship"

[RS Davis]

[glow=red,2,300]Brian Doherty Wrote:[/glow]
In modern America, attempts to suppress (especially if you already have a fan base) are a sure sign that you are heading not down a memory hole but to the toppermost of the poppermost. On the same day Moore chose to make news from Disney's "censorship," the news was also floating about an Israeli filmmaker refusing to make changes to his film Jenin, Jenin, on the Israeli 2002 offensive on the West Bank city of Jenin. Such changes might have helped rescind an outright ban on showing his film in Israel. Now that's censorship. But it is only censorship in one nation, and in a world of broadband where any media that can be reduced to digits and shot over wires, even that sort of pure state censorship will be more and more meaningless and ineffectual.

Are the allegations Moore is going to present in his forthcoming film true? Will he use his notorious shading techniques to tell the tale he wants to tell, and imply the evils he wishes to imply? Undoubtedly, it will be a mix of incontrovertible fact, questionable speculation, and even some verifiable lies. And undoubtedly a huge and universally accessible scrum of arguers, haters, and correctors, both educated and uneducated, will leap upon the film. Rather than smother it, this will merely help continue the lively, ubiquitous, multivoiced conversation we've all enjoyed (or sometimes decried) with increasing intensity since the Internet entered almost everyone's lives.

Michael Moore is annoying and something of a hypocrite and he doesn't get his facts straight. But his flourishing as a professional pain in the ass to the president of the United States, and his continued and continual thriving despite supposed "censorship" threats from purportedly all-powerful corporations, make him a glorious symbol of the still-living freedoms in what we can, without much in the way of irony, still call this Great Land of Ours.

[outgirl]

I can't stand Michael Moore. He's an extremist and a sensationalist. I hated Bowling for Columbine. The thing is, I probably agree with him on most issues but I hate the way he twists the facts to support his agenda. I think he's very irresponsible. He's just the liberal version of Bill O'Rielly. That said, I'm glad to live in a country where both of these guys are free to speak their minds even if I think they're both idiots.

[RS Davis]

outgirl said:

I can't stand Michael Moore. He's an extremist and a sensationalist. I hated Bowling for Columbine. The thing is, I probably agree with him on most issues but I hate the way he twists the facts to support his agenda. I think he's very irresponsible. He's just the liberal version of Bill O'Rielly. That said, I'm glad to live in a country where both of these guys are free to speak their minds even if I think they're both idiots.

Agreed, except I probably don't agree with Moore on very much. But you get it, and I am impressed.

- Rick

[outgirl]

RS said:

Agreed, except I probably don't agree with Moore on very much. But you get it, and I am impressed.

- Rick

That's kind of insulting. Of course I get it. I got Gary Reeds piece on the Animal rights laws as well. I just didn't think it was well written and while I understood the point he was making, I felt that he did not give enough info on the situation to make a judgement. But I got it.
This is pretty basic.

[RS Davis]

outgirl said:

That's kind of insulting. Of course I get it.

I didn't mean you understood what was written. I meant you see the big picture, silly.

- Rick

[outgirl]

RS said:

I didn't mean you understood what was written. I meant you see the big picture, silly.

- Rick

well of course I see the big picture, silly yourself. Hey I really do like this little guy. Kind of a Slim Shady Smiley, lol

[RS Davis]

outgirl said:

well of course I see the big picture, silly yourself. Hey I really do like this little guy. Kind of a Slim Shady Smiley, lol

He's one of my favorites, along with . Unfortunately, I don't really get to use him much. Or maybe that is fortunate. ;D

- Rick

[emilysrevolution]

RS said:

Agreed, except I probably don't agree with Moore on very much. But you get it, and I am impressed.

- Rick

I thought I had posted this once already.

Why u gotta be so condescending, Rick? You are beginning to sound like Brightman.

Now, if this disappears, I will know you're censoring me.

[RS Davis]

emilysrevolution said:

I thought I had posted this once already.

Why u gotta be so condescending, Rick? You are beginning to sound like Brightman.

Now, if this disappears, I will know you're censoring me.

I never censor.

I also was not intending that to be condescending. I just appreciate it when people see the big picture. I guess you have to visit the other forums I am in to truly understand what I meant by that - people there are often so blinded by ideology and infighting, they refuse to see the big picture.

I so love the group we have here.

- Rick