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Post by RS Davis on Apr 24, 2004 10:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by Ancient Dragon on Apr 24, 2004 21:13:20 GMT -5
That story smells of something very rotten  The prescription for the drugs was written by a Dr in some other state, but Floriduah put him in jail I hope he is appealing to higher court and get that judge thrown off the bench. |
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Post by Niles on Apr 25, 2004 0:11:44 GMT -5
Way to take the high road. (pun intended) He could have taken the plea but because he says he felt he was not in the wrong.....whatever.... the sysytem works if you work the sysytem. He could have been free on probation now.
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Post by RS Davis on Apr 25, 2004 0:29:57 GMT -5
Way to take the high road. (pun intended) He could have taken the plea but because he says he felt he was not in the wrong.....whatever.... the sysytem works if you work the sysytem. He could have been free on probation now. Isn't "free on probation" kind of a contradiction in terms? ;D I admire him taking a stand. He did nothing wrong. And if that lone dissenting juror had had any balls, he would have hung that jury. - Rick |
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Post by outgirl on Apr 25, 2004 4:20:47 GMT -5
While this is certainly an injustice, I'm not sure that he has done nothing wrong. This article says that he used undated Rx forms fron the Dr. office but doesn't say whether or not they were signed by the physician. The Dr. denies writing them so he probably didn't or it would have been documented in his medical record. The medical profession is very strict about this, I can assure you so it sounds to me like he is guilty of obtaining the drugs fraudulently and of forging a physician's signature. At least thats my impression from this article. Correct me if I'm wrong. He still did not deserve this sentence and it seems that the prosecution knew this. He also was mismanaged by the medical profession. He should have received a pain mgmt consult for his chronic pain. This man needed help not imprisonment.
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Post by RS Davis on Apr 25, 2004 8:59:05 GMT -5
While this is certainly an injustice, I'm not sure that he has done nothing wrong. This article says that he used undated Rx forms fron the Dr. office but doesn't say whether or not they were signed by the physician. The Dr. denies writing them so he probably didn't or it would have been documented in his medical record. The medical profession is very strict about this, I can assure you so it sounds to me like he is guilty of obtaining the drugs fraudulently and of forging a physician's signature. At least thats my impression from this article. Correct me if I'm wrong. He still did not deserve this sentence and it seems that the prosecution knew this. He also was mismanaged by the medical profession. He should have received a pain mgmt consult for his chronic pain. This man needed help not imprisonment. I have no doubt he did something illegal but I standby my assertion that he did nothing wrong. He had no choice, as no one would write him a script for his chronic and devastating pain. Morally, his hands are clean. Shame on our government. And shame on the weak-willed juror who put him in prison because he didn't want to be "the lone holdout." - Rick PS - Did i mention it's great to have you back?  |
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Post by outgirl on Apr 25, 2004 9:25:04 GMT -5
I have no doubt he did something illegal but I standby my assertion that he did something wrong. He had no choice, as no one would write him a script for his chronic and devastating pain. Morally, his hands are clean. Shame on our government. And shame on the weak-willed juror who put him in prison because he didn't want to be "the lone holdout." - Rick PS - Did i mention it's great to have you back? Thanks. I missed it here. I also agree about the juror. Why would you vote to convict someone you believed to be innocent. The fact that this statement was made should be enough to declare a mistrial in my opinion, but I'm not a lawyer. There is a lot that this article doesn't say though. With chronic pain, other forms of treatment are often more successful such as e-stim and physical therapy but people don't always want to go that route because they like their narcs. I'm not meaning to sound unsympathetic and I don't know if he has tried these things or if they were even offered. Believe me, I know that we fuck up a lot in this profession. I would just like to know if other options were offered. It's kind of a one sided article but then this is really only addressing the trafficking charge which he is clearly innocent of. Don't know if I'm even making sense as I've been up for over 24hrs now. So good night for now. |
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Post by whatever on Apr 25, 2004 23:00:15 GMT -5
I have no doubt he did something illegal but I standby my assertion that he did nothing wrong. He had no choice, as no one would write him a script for his chronic and devastating pain. Morally, his hands are clean. Shame on our government. And shame on the weak-willed juror who put him in prison because he didn't want to be "the lone holdout." - Rick PS - Did i mention it's great to have you back? YES!!! Yes Yes Yes!!! Don't you just love making a woman scream that?  That was well said Rick, totally would claim I wrote it without shame, except for the whole I didn't write it part. Yes  isn't it amazing that any sick people could possibly get locked up for this? For even one sick person, it's bad, but for story upon story of people? It's frighteningly insane. Also, a funny/sad side note, that we in the NORML community joke that we've always been riding the coattails, so to speak, of the sick and dying people who need pot, even though most people who use it aren't the sick and dying. They're more motivated, and they seem to do more than the hale and healthy, sometimes in just the few years or months before they die. HI OUTGIRL !  Great to see you here! |
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Post by RS Davis on Apr 25, 2004 23:07:24 GMT -5
YES!!! Yes Yes Yes!!! Don't you just love making a woman scream that? As often as it happens it still never gets old... ;D That was well said Rick, totally would claim I wrote it without shame, except for the whole I didn't write it part. Yes isn't it amazing that any sick people could possibly get locked up for this? For even one sick person, it's bad, but for story upon story of people? It's frighteningly insane. Also, a funny/sad side note, that we in the NORML community joke that we've always been riding the coattails, so to speak, of the sick and dying people who need pot, even though most people who use it aren't the sick and dying. They're more motivated, and they seem to do more than the hale and healthy, sometimes in just the few years or months before they die. It's a tragedy. I meant to mention in my post to Outgirl that there may well be other options for his pain management, but isn't the right to decide our own medical treatment for something as important as our own lives a fundamental one? HI OUTGIRL ! Great to see you here! Isn't it, though??  - Rick |
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Post by whatever on Apr 26, 2004 21:13:16 GMT -5
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isn't it amazing that any sick people could possibly get locked up for this? For even one sick person, it's bad, but for story upon story of people? It's frighteningly insane.