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Post by penguin on Mar 28, 2004 15:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 15:26:58 GMT -5
Well, I guess I'm never going to Louisiana again. This fascist bullshit is really starting to freak me out lately. Welcome to Amerika. - Rick
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Post by dr snootch on Mar 28, 2004 15:27:16 GMT -5
What really pisses me off about all this is that our troops are fighting a war in a foreign country to protect rights of foreigners that are being taken away from American citizens by their own government. I don't like the direction this country is going, not one bit. This reminds me of something I saw in an attorney's office once. It was a framed copy of the Bill of Rights with a red 'VOID WHERE PROHIBITED' stamp over it. The fourth amendment is one of the basic rights of individuals. Without having to get a warrant from a judge (which is not really that difficult in the first place), there's absolutely no check on the power of police. Several years ago, an elderly man was killed in front of his wife and granddaughter when police (with a sesarch warrant describing the house to be searched, in detail) broke down the door of the house next door and shot to death the elderly man who had gotten his shotgun to defend his home from what were unidentified men dressed in black with black ski masks, no badges and assault-style weapons.
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 15:51:57 GMT -5
What really pisses me off about all this is that our troops are fighting a war in a foreign country to protect rights of foreigners that are being taken away from American citizens by their own government. I don't like the direction this country is going, not one bit. This reminds me of something I saw in an attorney's office once. It was a framed copy of the Bill of Rights with a red 'VOID WHERE PROHIBITED' stamp over it. The fourth amendment is one of the basic rights of individuals. Without having to get a warrant from a judge (which is not really that difficult in the first place), there's absolutely no check on the power of police. Several years ago, an elderly man was killed in front of his wife and granddaughter when police (with a sesarch warrant describing the house to be searched, in detail) broke down the door of the house next door and shot to death the elderly man who had gotten his shotgun to defend his home from what were unidentified men dressed in black with black ski masks, no badges and assault-style weapons. I mourn daily the death of the concept of inalienable rights. - Rick
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Post by penguin on Mar 28, 2004 16:04:03 GMT -5
This reminds me of something I saw in an attorney's office once. It was a framed copy of the Bill of Rights with a red 'VOID WHERE PROHIBITED' stamp over it. I love that idea! I hope he won't sue me if I go a little Napster with it. It'll be a great addition to my office wall!
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 16:15:11 GMT -5
I love that idea! I hope he won't sue me if I go a little Napster with it. It'll be a great addition to my office wall! Me too. Very clever. - Rick
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Post by MattyJBoy on Mar 28, 2004 22:39:45 GMT -5
This is extremely frightening!
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 23:38:10 GMT -5
This is extremely frightening! Very. - Rick
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Post by outgirl on Mar 29, 2004 1:10:48 GMT -5
Every day we see more of our freedom vanish. The Doc is right. What in the hell are our troops fighting for. This country has been treading on dangerous ground since long before Dubya came on the seen but since his administration (actually I prefer the word regime) came into power, we have seen infractions that would make Orwell shudder. This is terrible!
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 29, 2004 3:03:25 GMT -5
Every day we see more of our freedom vanish. The Doc is right. What in the hell are our troops fighting for. This country has been treading on dangerous ground since long before Dubya came on the scene, but since his administration (actually I prefer the word regime) came into power, we have seen infractions that would make Orwell shudder. This is terrible! See, we agree on something. ;D The two most dangerous things to civil liberties in the last 50 years have been the Drug War and the War on Terra. - Rick
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Post by whatever on Mar 29, 2004 15:06:53 GMT -5
Yes, what you all said, every bit. That story bummed me out yesterday. All I can think is, what if this one falls, but another one doesn't? How awful is it going to have to get before people realize that a police state isn't what they want? How far is this ugly mess going to play out until it's done.
I mean, my oldest kid is almost 15. And I've got two more only a few years younger. I will not, I swear on my life I will not let my kid go into that war if it's still going on. Now I'm thinking, here isn't as safe a home as it used to be for them either. If I could I would move to Switzerland today. They can't have my kids.
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 29, 2004 15:34:22 GMT -5
Yes, what you all said, every bit. That story bummed me out yesterday. All I can think is, what if this one falls, but another one doesn't? How awful is it going to have to get before people realize that a police state isn't what they want? How far is this ugly mess going to play out until it's done. I mean, my oldest kid is almost 15. And I've got two more only a few years younger. I will not, I swear on my life I will not let my kid go into that war if it's still going on. Now I'm thinking, here isn't as safe a home as it used to be for them either. If I could I would move to Switzerland today. They can't have my kids. As the mother of a 15 year old, it is important that you read this: Seven Reasons You Should Refuse to Register With the Selective Slavery System - Rick
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Post by whatever on Mar 29, 2004 15:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 29, 2004 15:48:18 GMT -5
I'd show it to him a few months before his 18th birthday, and let him decide for himself. I wish I had seen that when I was 17. - Rick
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Post by whatever on Mar 29, 2004 18:53:40 GMT -5
I'd show it to him a few months before his 18th birthday, and let him decide for himself. I wish I had seen that when I was 17. - Rick Yeah, my oldest, he refused to say the pledge the other day. Said he didn't think he should have to; they're studying about issues like this and choices in American Government class. They gave him an attutide about it. He didn't back down. That's my boy
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