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Post by RS Davis on Mar 25, 2004 23:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by dr snootch on Mar 26, 2004 16:56:42 GMT -5
Republicans suck, vote Libertarian!!!
It appears Gary Nolan will be our Presidential candidate, has he announced yet who his running-mate will be?
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 26, 2004 17:02:46 GMT -5
Republicans suck, vote Libertarian!!! It appears Gary Nolan will be our Presidential candidate, has he announced yet who his running-mate will be? I'm not sure. I've met Nolan, and he seems pretty cool - he's Lebanese, like my wife. He seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders. As to a running mate, I only know much about one of the candidates, and that's only because she is a friend - Tamara Millay. She's really cool. - Rick |
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Post by penguin on Mar 27, 2004 22:29:00 GMT -5
I'd say the Republican 'party' may be, at least on paper, the party of 'smaller' government. But, the guy at the top sure ain't.
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Post by outgirl on Mar 28, 2004 5:44:08 GMT -5
Republicans suck, vote Libertarian!!! /quote] The Libertarians aren't even on the radar in this election. Most people, myself included don't know who Gary Nolan is but I do know that he doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Bush. I don't really like Kerry and I don't really understand how he became "the man." I don't like the two party system but that is the reality of American politics as we know it. My primary concern is getting the Bush regime out of Washington and out of our lives. We can't afford another 4 yrs of Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and their special interests. I believe the process needs its Al Sharptons, Ralph Nadars and Gary Nolans in order to force the Republicans and Democrats to address the issues that they otherwise would not, but that is as far as my support can go. Our foriegn policy has put us in deep shit all over the world and financially we are going to be in serious trouble. We have watched our rights continue to deteriorate under this administration while we sat helpless under the shadow of 9/11. My slogan this year....anyone but Bush. I'm very concerned about the legacy that this administration is going to leave for our children. I respect that many of you have strong ties to the Libertarian party but I hope that you will look at the bigger picture. We definately need to change the system. I'm a nurse. I don't know what the answers are. I believe the electoral process is outdated and without some kind of campaign finance reform the parties will continue to be run by special interests. But we can't afford to "vote our conscience" this time around. We need to send Bush back to Crawford County, Texas before it's too late. Peace. |
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 11:27:07 GMT -5
The Libertarians aren't even on the radar in this election. Most people, myself included don't know who Gary Nolan is but I do know that he doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Bush. I don't really like Kerry and I don't really understand how he became "the man." I don't like the two party system but that is the reality of American politics as we know it. My primary concern is getting the Bush regime out of Washington and out of our lives. We can't afford another 4 yrs of Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and their special interests. I believe the process needs its Al Sharptons, Ralph Nadars and Gary Nolans in order to force the Republicans and Democrats to address the issues that they otherwise would not, but that is as far as my support can go. Our foriegn policy has put us in deep shit all over the world and financially we are going to be in serious trouble. We have watched our rights continue to deteriorate under this administration while we sat helpless under the shadow of 9/11. My slogan this year....anyone but Bush. I'm very concerned about the legacy that this administration is going to leave for our children. I respect that many of you have strong ties to the Libertarian party but I hope that you will look at the bigger picture. We definately need to change the system. I'm a nurse. I don't know what the answers are. I believe the electoral process is outdated and without some kind of campaign finance reform the parties will continue to be run by special interests. But we can't afford to "vote our conscience" this time around. We need to send Bush back to Crawford County, Texas before it's too late. Peace. I don't like Bush, either, but I don't think Kerry is any better. This whole thing I've been hearing lately about "Anybody but Bush" seems short-sided. That can't be true. How about David Duke? Would he be better than Bush? Voting against someone, rather than for someone, to me is a wasted vote. When voting the lesser of two evils, don't be surprised when what you get is evil. - Rick |
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Post by dr snootch on Mar 28, 2004 13:04:28 GMT -5
The Libertarians aren't even on the radar in this election. Most people, myself included don't know who Gary Nolan is but I do know that he doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Bush. I don't really like Kerry and I don't really understand how he became "the man." I don't like the two party system but that is the reality of American politics as we know it. My primary concern is getting the Bush regime out of Washington and out of our lives. We can't afford another 4 yrs of Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and their special interests. I believe the process needs its Al Sharptons, Ralph Nadars and Gary Nolans in order to force the Republicans and Democrats to address the issues that they otherwise would not, but that is as far as my support can go. Our foriegn policy has put us in deep shit all over the world and financially we are going to be in serious trouble. We have watched our rights continue to deteriorate under this administration while we sat helpless under the shadow of 9/11. My slogan this year....anyone but Bush. I'm very concerned about the legacy that this administration is going to leave for our children. I respect that many of you have strong ties to the Libertarian party but I hope that you will look at the bigger picture. We definately need to change the system. I'm a nurse. I don't know what the answers are. I believe the electoral process is outdated and without some kind of campaign finance reform the parties will continue to be run by special interests. But we can't afford to "vote our conscience" this time around. We need to send Bush back to Crawford County, Texas before it's too late. Peace. I sympathize with what you're saying, but if no one ever votes for anyone but a Democrat or Republican, we'll never get out from under this two-headed monster. Democrats erode Constitutional rights just like Republicans. John Kerry is even in favor of the Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. He's in favor of Civil Unions for homosexuals, but he's just as bad as Bush when it comes to diluting our Constitution. He also voted in favor of the Patriot Act before it was even written. The fact that he was pressured to vote for it, and did, just lessens his credibility. The Al Sharpton's of the U.S. have success with certain issues because they represent special-interest groups that give a lot of money to Democratic candidates, not because anyone takes them seriously. Rights are supposed to be universal and inalienable, not purchased through political contributions. |
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Post by MattyJBoy on Mar 28, 2004 21:21:10 GMT -5
I sympathize with what you're saying, but if no one ever votes for anyone but a Democrat or Republican, we'll never get out from under this two-headed monster. Democrats erode Constitutional rights just like Republicans. John Kerry is even in favor of the Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. He's in favor of Civil Unions for homosexuals, but he's just as bad as Bush when it comes to diluting our Constitution. He also voted in favor of the Patriot Act before it was even written. The fact that he was pressured to vote for it, and did, just lessens his credibility. The Al Sharpton's of the U.S. have success with certain issues because they represent special-interest groups that give a lot of money to Democratic candidates, not because anyone takes them seriously. Rights are supposed to be universal and inalienable, not purchased through political contributions. Nobody can be just as bad as Bush! Outgirl is right, we need to get Bush out of office and out of our lives! And how can you say Kerry was pressured in voting, to lessen his credibility? That's really deep! Keep it real ;D |
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 28, 2004 23:36:20 GMT -5
Nobody can be just as bad as Bush! Outgirl is right, we need to get Bush out of office and out of our lives! And how can you say Kerry was pressured in voting, to lessen his credibility? That's really deep! Keep it real ;D It means he doesn't think for himself. He doesn't take a moral stand. He is pure politics, just like the rest of them. But by all means, vote for him - I don't think he'll be any worse than Bush - we'll just be getting chocolate evil instead of vanilla evil. - Rick |
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Post by outgirl on Mar 29, 2004 1:03:12 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying and you have valid points but sometimes the lesser of two evils is the only real choice that we have. I believe that Kerry, while not my choice, is a better choice than Bush. As a gay American, I know that he is a better choice for me. He voted for DOMA (like Clinton) and of all the Dems he has done less to court the gay vote. I wasn't aware that he supported changing the constitution but am not really surprised. He will probably change his position on that anyway. He will be more supportive of gay rights legislation than Bush but that is not the only issue that I am concerned with. A vote for Nolan is like firing off a gun full of blanks. My vote for Kerry may help get Bush out of Washington. I can live with that. Peace.
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Post by MattyJBoy on Mar 29, 2004 9:11:39 GMT -5
I hear what you're saying and you have valid points but sometimes the lesser of two evils is the only real choice that we have. I believe that Kerry, while not my choice, is a better choice than Bush. As a gay American, I know that he is a better choice for me. He voted for DOMA (like Clinton) and of all the Dems he has done less to court the gay vote. I wasn't aware that he supported changing the constitution but am not really surprised. He will probably change his position on that anyway. He will be more supportive of gay rights legislation than Bush but that is not the only issue that I am concerned with. A vote for Nolan is like firing off a gun full of blanks. My vote for Kerry may help get Bush out of Washington. I can live with that. Peace. I totally agree with you OutGirl! If it means to vote for Kerry to get Bush out of office then I'm all for it! |
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Post by emilysrevolution on Mar 31, 2004 8:49:40 GMT -5
Gary who? Republicans suck, vote Libertarian!!! It appears Gary Nolan will be our Presidential candidate, has he announced yet who his running-mate will be? |
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Post by emilysrevolution on Mar 31, 2004 8:55:59 GMT -5
I think when you are out of the spotlight like Gary Nolan, you have the luxury of never giving in to politics. And anyway, I want my elected officials to vote my conscience...what I believe in, like Clinton. He used polling to find out what the people wanted, not like Bush, who uses them to find out our fears and use them against us. The person who preserves my rights (most important for me: my right to choose) gets my vote. But they have to be able to win to preserve my rights. It means he doesn't think for himself. He doesn't take a moral stand. He is pure politics, just like the rest of them. But by all means, vote for him - I don't think he'll be any worse than Bush - we'll just be getting chocolate evil instead of vanilla evil. - Rick |
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Post by emilysrevolution on Mar 31, 2004 8:57:21 GMT -5
high five outgirl!! ANYONEBUTBUSH I hear what you're saying and you have valid points but sometimes the lesser of two evils is the only real choice that we have. I believe that Kerry, while not my choice, is a better choice than Bush. As a gay American, I know that he is a better choice for me. He voted for DOMA (like Clinton) and of all the Dems he has done less to court the gay vote. I wasn't aware that he supported changing the constitution but am not really surprised. He will probably change his position on that anyway. He will be more supportive of gay rights legislation than Bush but that is not the only issue that I am concerned with. A vote for Nolan is like firing off a gun full of blanks. My vote for Kerry may help get Bush out of Washington. I can live with that. Peace. |
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 31, 2004 12:58:28 GMT -5
high five outgirl!! ANYONEBUTBUSH Yeah, totally! Stalin for president! - Rick |
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