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Post by Barmax on Oct 18, 2003 3:12:18 GMT -5
Ok,Rick, now that you are a new dad let me suggest some thing. Don't listen to Dr.Phil!
This guy believes in negotiating the Authority in the household!
When I was a kid, there was no negotiation. My dad told me what to do and out of respect, I did as I was told.
The kids today need to know who is boss. Stand your ground and you will be a great dad!
Time outs- don't work when you send a kid to his room with a computer, phone and stereo,and tv. Put them in a neutral place that isn't fun.
What do you think aout this?
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Post by CJYJTJ on Oct 18, 2003 10:20:48 GMT -5
Ok,Rick, now that you are a new dad let me suggest some thing. Don't listen to Dr.Phil! This guy believes in negotiating the Authority in the household! When I was a kid, there was no negotiation. My dad told me what to do and out of respect, I did as I was told. The kids today need to know who is boss. Stand your ground and you will be a great dad! Time outs- don't work when you send a kid to his room with a computer, phone and stereo,and tv. Put them in a neutral place that isn't fun. What do you think aout this? What the heck do YOU know about raiging kids? You don't have any. Do you also give advice about how to pilot fighter jets? Nuclear physics? Quantum mechanics? Here's a reply from a kid who's parent was advised by you.  |
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Post by Gabrielle on Oct 18, 2003 17:58:21 GMT -5
"KIDS TODAY NEED TO KNOW WHO'S BOSS"  ??  Barmax... Are you on crack, or something? |
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Post by whatever too lazy to login on Oct 18, 2003 19:20:18 GMT -5
Forget it, Rick forget whatever you think you know about raising kids. That's what I had to do. Each one is unique, no matter how much the little buggers look alike, and I think we all just learn along the way.
cj those pics are a scream! Who gives a rats ass, HA! BOO FUCKING HOO hahahahahahahaahah
Oh, hey, I didn't mention what my new job is. You'll love this. I'm QA! tee hee They don't know I scored "extreme" violence on the hell test either.
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Post by RS Davis on Oct 18, 2003 23:28:06 GMT -5
Ok,Rick, now that you are a new dad let me suggest some thing. Don't listen to Dr.Phil! This guy believes in negotiating the Authority in the household! When I was a kid, there was no negotiation. My dad told me what to do and out of respect, I did as I was told. The kids today need to know who is boss. Stand your ground and you will be a great dad! Time outs- don't work when you send a kid to his room with a computer, phone and stereo,and tv. Put them in a neutral place that isn't fun. What do you think aout this? This is a surprisingly conservative viewpoint from you. As far as that kind of stuff goes, he'll know what I say goes, but I will be as lenient or as strict as he has proven he needs. If he is a good, trustworthy kid, I will give him a lot of freedom. If he's a little hellion, I'll have to restrict his freedom. CJ - What do you know about politics? Have you ever been a politician?  - Rick |
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Post by CJYJTJ on Oct 19, 2003 0:54:48 GMT -5
This is a surprisingly conservative viewpoint from you. As far as that kind of stuff goes, he'll know what I say goes, but I will be as lenient or as strict as he has proven he needs. If he is a good, trustworthy kid, I will give him a lot of freedom. If he's a little hellion, I'll have to restrict his freedom. CJ - What do you know about politics? Have you ever been a politician? - Rick I've worked on political campaigns many times. First one was in 1972. Does that count? Politics are a part of our lives- each of us. Raising children, though, isn't. And, it's one of those things where you are flying blindly. Things you do with your child at age 3 affect the child when he/she is 23, but you don't know how. I'm umm.... yeah, that's how old... and I'm still being affected by what my parents did when I was 5 years old. So don't try drawing parallels that are as simply as that. This isn't easy. Raising kids is MUCH harder, and more like trying to nail jello to walls. |
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Post by RS Davis on Oct 19, 2003 2:23:09 GMT -5
I've worked on political campaigns many times. First one was in 1972. Does that count? Politics are a part of our lives- each of us. Raising children, though, isn't. And, it's one of those things where you are flying blindly. Things you do with your child at age 3 affect the child when he/she is 23, but you don't know how. I'm umm.... yeah, that's how old... and I'm still being affected by what my parents did when I was 5 years old. So don't try drawing parallels that are as simply as that. This isn't easy. Raising kids is MUCH harder, and more like trying to nail jello to walls. Yeah, but I think most people have ideas of how they are going to raise their kids before they even have kids. It's like the great experiment. Everyone says, "When I do it, I'm gonna do it this way." Then they have kids, and test all their theories out. If Barmax ever adopts a kid, he'll get the chance to put his money where his mouth is. On a side note, all the advice he gave, I have heard come out of Dr. Phil's mouth, so I don't know where the knock on the guy came from. - Rick |
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Post by CJYJTJ on Oct 19, 2003 10:24:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but I think most people have ideas of how they are going to raise their kids before they even have kids. It's like the great experiment. Everyone says, "When I do it, I'm gonna do it this way." Then they have kids, and test all their theories out. If Barmax ever adopts a kid, he'll get the chance to put his money where his mouth is. On a side note, all the advice he gave, I have heard come out of Dr. Phil's mouth, so I don't know where the knock on the guy came from. - Rick Having ideas is one thing, telling people what to do is quite something else, especially when you do so with the faux air of authority. It's far from the first time he's espoused on the topic. |
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Post by emilysrevolution on Oct 22, 2003 6:33:55 GMT -5
I find that somewhat ironic commentary coming from you.
I think that how children are raised does affect all of us to the degree that it may determine whether or not they grow up to be assholes or saints and that we all have beliefs about raising kids based on our own screwed up childhoods that are valid with or without experience in parenting. It doesn't take much to get some experience anyway. Watch the kids of anyone you know and you will rethink any concepts you've had of parenting thus far. But as far as advising Rick goes, I have nothing to say. I know Rick and Meg well enough to know that they will not be perfect parents but they will be good and kind and loving and FUN and will ask for my advice whenever, if ever they decide they want it.
I wouldn't listen to Dr. Phil because he irritates me and is affiliated with Oprah. I have an irrational hated of Oprah. And Michael Douglas. I can't explain it.l
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Post by Gabrielle on Oct 22, 2003 13:13:23 GMT -5
I find that somewhat ironic commentary coming from you. I think that how children are raised does affect all of us to the degree that it may determine whether or not they grow up to be assholes or saints and that we all have beliefs about raising kids based on our own screwed up childhoods that are valid with or without experience in parenting. It doesn't take much to get some experience anyway. Watch the kids of anyone you know and you will rethink any concepts you've had of parenting thus far. But as far as advising Rick goes, I have nothing to say. I know Rick and Meg well enough to know that they will not be perfect parents but they will be good and kind and loving and FUN and will ask for my advice whenever, if ever they decide they want it. I wouldn't listen to Dr. Phil because he irritates me and is affiliated with Oprah. I have an irrational hated of Oprah. And Michael Douglas. I can't explain it.l I have to agree, there... And yes. Dr. Phil sucks ass. |
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Post by RS Davis on Oct 23, 2003 11:50:36 GMT -5
I've got no problem with Dr. Phil - I think he is exceedingly rational and sensible.
- Rick
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Post by hotjan on Oct 24, 2003 12:21:26 GMT -5
I find that somewhat ironic commentary coming from you. I think that how children are raised does affect all of us to the degree that it may determine whether or not they grow up to be assholes or saints and that we all have beliefs about raising kids based on our own screwed up childhoods that are valid with or without experience in parenting. It doesn't take much to get some experience anyway. Watch the kids of anyone you know and you will rethink any concepts you've had of parenting thus far. But as far as advising Rick goes, I have nothing to say. I know Rick and Meg well enough to know that they will not be perfect parents but they will be good and kind and loving and FUN and will ask for my advice whenever, if ever they decide they want it. I wouldn't listen to Dr. Phil because he irritates me and is affiliated with Oprah. I have an irrational hated of Oprah. And Michael Douglas. I can't explain it.l Dr. Phil makes me laugh. Ialso have an unreasonable hatred of Micheal Douglas. He is icky. I hate Jon Voigt, too. I think he's creepy. |
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Post by dr snootch on Oct 25, 2003 8:49:16 GMT -5
I have this dislike for Dr. Phil myself. This dislike was recently fueled when this overweight 'advisor of the masses' had the gall to write a diet book. A diet book? From a guy going 250-260? Are you kidding me? Then he blames his being overweight on lack of exercise due to a bad knee. Meanwhile Christopher Reeves is STILL in better shape than Dr. Phil and he can barely move his pinky!!!!
BTW, the most important point Dr. Phil points out in his diet book is that you must learn to be comfortable with your weight. Sounds like the Star Jones diet to me.
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Post by Kender on Oct 28, 2003 17:54:05 GMT -5
Time outs- don't work when you send a kid to his room with a computer, phone and stereo,and tv. Put them in a neutral place that isn't fun. What do you think aout this? You are correct. The idea of a time out is to deprive the child of something he values. Sending him to his room may do the trick if his room resembles a cell: four walls, a roof, a closet, a bed, and furniture. If it is a place of amusement, the "time out" is sabotaged from the beginning. |
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Post by Leelooblues on Oct 31, 2003 14:04:57 GMT -5
Raising kids is very much like driving, writing or brushing one's teeth: there isn't one universal method that works for everyone and no one does it the same way.
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