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Post by RS Davis on Mar 4, 2004 11:37:50 GMT -5
Now I tried to put in perspective of me, a woman, having been in the military in a non-traditional field. Aircraft electronics. Was it being forced to hire women that got me in the door? I think so, but I also think this differs in that it wasn't partially tax-funded; it was all tax-funded. It was public service, and why should anyone not have the right to be considered? It's getting a little muddy for me here on this one! You are right. The difference between you, a private citizen, and the government, is that you have the freedom of association, while the government does not. You have the right to discriminate. The government does not. Anyone should be alllowed to get married in this country. As a side thought, on top of everything else, if they could move to another country and get married, why are we being so backward here? Makes me want to say, "Hey, I thought we were free, I thought we were the free ones." I know, I'm preaching to the choir for the most part I'm sure. About the Constitutional amendment "Idea"; could that be any more transparent? Scary! Civil unions, yeah, I can't believe it's anything other than seperate but equal. As with most concessions, it's a slap in the face. The way the states are moving though, I think that slap isn't going to hurt. Have to add; don't you just love the people who are standing up for this? Can you imagine saying, in America "Someone is going to be arrested today for marrying two people." Two rational adults. Two people who don't want to hurt anyone or anything in any way, and can be held completely responsible for each other. I think about what that means. Unbelievable. It might be your job, but that doesn't make it right. Again. I'm still having a difficult time with the business receiving tax dollars and then not being "fair" with them. That could be seen as contratual violation on the part of the business and the government, on us. No, that makes it more confusing. Easiest to not dole out the money to them, any way you go. Agreed, again. I wrote a piece on this. Here's the thread: freedomfiles.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=freedom&action=display&thread=1074398639 - Rick |
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Post by RS Davis on Mar 4, 2004 16:05:03 GMT -5
I agree that anyone who wants to work for the government or military should be allowed. No discrimination. Even in the perfect Libertarian world there would be some tax-funded things and people working those jobs should be free from discrimination, absolutely. One exception: Everyone who qualifies should be given certain positions. For example, a fire department or military or police position should be given to anyone who can meet the mental and physical requirements for the job. No lowering standards. If a woman, man, homosexual, whatever, can meet the already set requirements for being able to do the job effectively, I see no reason or right to deny them. - Rick PS - Did you lose your password? Email me a new password, and I will change it for you. |
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Post by MattyJBoy on Apr 6, 2004 3:14:54 GMT -5
I really dont see how freedom is a two way street. can anyone tell me how it is 2 ways? I only know one street. I dont think business's should discriminate at all under any circumstances! In fact, no-one should discriminate at all! It makes me sad and angry to think there are business's out there and people out there who do so and get away with it. I'm a firm believer of agree to disagree! well said outgirl! love ya!  |
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Post by outgirl on Apr 6, 2004 4:06:10 GMT -5
I really dont see how freedom is a two way street. can anyone tell me how it is 2 ways? I only know one street. I dont think business's should discriminate at all under any circumstances! In fact, no-one should discriminate at all! It makes me sad and angry to think there are business's out there and people out there who do so and get away with it. I'm a firm believer of agree to disagree! well said outgirl! love ya! You know that I agree that discrimination is always wrong and I believe that all of the people on this thread believe it is wrong as well. Where we differ is in our belief that the government has the right to regulate anti discrimination laws. You know where I stand on this. Love you too. Peace. |
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Post by RS Davis on Apr 6, 2004 11:01:24 GMT -5
You know that I agree that discrimination is always wrong and I believe that all of the people on this thread believe it is wrong as well. Where we differ is in our belief that the government has the right to regulate anti discrimination laws. You know where I stand on this. Love you too. Peace. Thanks. You're right. I think everyone in here has the same goals and principles for the most part - just different ideas on how to accomplish them. For instance, I don't think anyone in here yet is against gay marriage, unless they are against State-sponsored marriage altogether. - Rick |
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