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Post by outgirl on Apr 29, 2004 0:08:39 GMT -5
This is way cool! The kids at the shady/aftermath forum would be laughing their fuckin asses off at me "the resident hip hop authority" because I'm still such a newbie lol, but I learn quickly and with my groupie soul it comes easily. First Ima tell ya why I love hip hop. I love the irreverence. The whole politically incorrectness of it. I love the bitches and the ho's and all the nasty ass lyrics. But thats just the surface. Royce da 5'9" is todays Bob Dylan. His canvas may be the Detroit hood but his rhymes speak to the struggles that all of us as individuals face daily. Hip hop is about standing up to the oppressors. It's about fighting back. Now the majority of what gets airplay is hip pop llike J kwon or Chingy. Not to diss these young boys, I mean J kwon is only 17 lol, good for him. He has two kids that he supports. I'm happy for him and "er body in da club gettin tipsy" may have its place in hip pop history...but it ain't Tupac either. The best mc's are poets with rhymes "tight as conditions of most black folks" to quote Obie Trice. Hip hop comes from the hood, but if a lesbian from the burbs can relate to Royce or Kanye then that proves to me that we really are just one big family on this planet with the same dreams and desires. That gives me hope and I find so little of that these days. Oh and I love the beats.
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Post by dr snootch on Apr 29, 2004 7:37:39 GMT -5
This is way cool! The kids at the shady/aftermath forum would be laughing their fuckin asses off at me "the resident hip hop authority" because I'm still such a newbie lol, but I learn quickly and with my groupie soul it comes easily. First Ima tell ya why I love hip hop. I love the irreverence. The whole politically incorrectness of it. I love the bitches and the ho's and all the nasty ass lyrics. But thats just the surface. Royce da 5'9" is todays Bob Dylan. His canvas may be the Detroit hood but his rhymes speak to the struggles that all of us as individuals face daily. Hip hop is about standing up to the oppressors. It's about fighting back. Now the majority of what gets airplay is hip pop llike J kwon or Chingy. Not to diss these young boys, I mean J kwon is only 17 lol, good for him. He has two kids that he supports. I'm happy for him and "er body in da club gettin tipsy" may have its place in hip pop history...but it ain't Tupac either. The best mc's are poets with rhymes "tight as conditions of most black folks" to quote Obie Trice. Hip hop comes from the hood, but if a lesbian from the burbs can relate to Royce or Kanye then that proves to me that we really are just one big family on this planet with the same dreams and desires. That gives me hope and I find so little of that these days. Oh and I love the beats. Me too, I'm kind of a closet hip-hop fan myself. I love Wu Tang Clan, probably my all-time favorite, but NWA hooked me as a kid. I'm pretty hip on Nelly these days (my mom plays Bingo with his grandmother), it's good to see the local kid do well. And you can't leave out Snoop. I love Snoop. |
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Post by outgirl on Apr 29, 2004 17:43:19 GMT -5
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Me too, I'm kind of a closet hip-hop fan myself. I love Wu Tang Clan, probably my all-time favorite, but NWA hooked me as a kid. I'm pretty hip on Nelly these days (my mom plays Bingo with his grandmother), it's good to see the local kid do well.
And you can't leave out Snoop. I love Snoop.[/quote]
No you definately can't leave Snoop out. Man he's everywhere now. He even did a couple episodes on the L word. I got to see him last summer on the roc the mic tour. Awesome. I was really sorry that Dre cancelled his Detox cd cause I'd heard that Snoop was gonna be on it. Maybe Dre will produce Snoops next joint cause good as Snoop is, he's better with Dr. Dre
I like to support the local mcs too because they get hated on a lot. Tha lou has made its rep on radio friendly clubbangers. Nothing wrong with makin some money and dudes got skills. It's just frustrating that Hip hop radio is nothing more than your average top 40 station without Coldplay.
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Post by whatever on Apr 29, 2004 21:04:37 GMT -5
To be honest, I know next to nothing about hip hop, but, I know some, and some of what I like I"m not sure it is exactly hip hop. Great new stuff hubby brought home. Evenancesnse? Black Eyed Peas. The Off Spring.
Also Everlast, don't know what they exactly.But heck, it feels good just to know of a new band name to bring up. I'm an old metal head myself.
That was a great post outgirl. The more I hear of hip hop and rap, the more I'm learning to listen to it and hear what it means. I agree with what you say about the social commentary, and speaking up.
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Post by outgirl on Apr 29, 2004 23:07:15 GMT -5
To be honest, I know next to nothing about hip hop, but, I know some, and some of what I like I"m not sure it is exactly hip hop. Great new stuff hubby brought home. Evenancesnse? Black Eyed Peas. The Off Spring. Also Everlast, don't know what they exactly.But heck, it feels good just to know of a new band name to bring up. I'm an old metal head myself. That was a great post outgirl. The more I hear of hip hop and rap, the more I'm learning to listen to it and hear what it means. I agree with what you say about the social commentary, and speaking up. Do you know Kanye West? His cd "College dropout" is the best cd released so far this yr IMO. He speaks a lot about the social inequities but also about individual accountability. Personally, I think anyone could feel this music. There's not a bad song on it. If you only cop one hip hop cd this yr. I recomend this one. |
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Post by RS Davis on Apr 30, 2004 10:42:27 GMT -5
I have a theory that every generation has its Johnny Rotten, someone who says "fuck the conventions, I gotta be me." They slaughter sacred cows without even looking back. Their beauty is in their ability to piss everyone off, take them out of their comfort zones, and force them to think. Their beauty is in their ability to flip the bird at the fascist political correctness all around them, and be loved for it.
Elvis was the Johnny Rotten of his day. So was Jim Morrison. Johnny Rotten, of course, came next. Then Axl Rose. Then Kurt Cobain. Now, it's Eminem. I can't wait to see the brilliant motherfucker who picks up the flag and runs with it...
- Rick
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Post by outgirl on Apr 30, 2004 12:30:45 GMT -5
I have a theory that every generation has its Johnny Rotten, someone who says "fuck the conventions, I gotta be me." They slaughter sacred cows without even looking back. Their beauty is in their ability to piss everyone off, take them out of their comfort zones, and force them to think. Their beauty is in their ability to flip the bird at the fascist political correctness all around them, and be loved for it. Elvis was the Johnny Rotten of his day. So was Jim Morrison. Johnny Rotten, of course, came next. Then Axl Rose. Then Kurt Cobain. Now, it's Eminem. I can't wait to see the brilliant motherfucker who picks up the flag and runs with it... - Rick You know, I was never really into G&R but I did think Axel had a beautiful face. He and Jim M had that same angelic quality. Really so did Curt Cobain. He was like the heroin chic angel. lol. I agree with you. Even for those who dont like Em, it's hard not to root for him. He has been through major shit and thru it all still screamed fuck to the world. First the homophobic, misogynistic accusers and more recently the revelation of the rascist tapes. I know some black folks who will never forgive him. But that didn't stop the My band video from hitting #1 on 106&Park. He doesn't back down from his accusers ever. Word to Nelly. |
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Post by MattyJBoy on May 6, 2004 2:25:40 GMT -5
Well I have to say that Outgirl sure has changed my way of thinking when it comes to hiphop! I hated Eminem when he first came out and now I love him and want him in the worst way! Okay that was a little too much say but you catch my drift. Outgirl and I are Eminem groupies and are going to follow him around.  I really connected with his words when I actually sat down and listened to them. Thankyou outgirl for opening another door for me. Oh yea...There is one thing that I can't stand in most of hiphop. It is when all the guys sag their pants past their knees! I hate that so much! that is really the only thing that I don't like. other than that keep it real and dont hate! MattyJ |
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Post by emilysrevolution on May 6, 2004 3:26:19 GMT -5
Well I have to say that Outgirl sure has changed my way of thinking when it comes to hiphop! I hated Eminem when he first came out and now I love him and want him in the worst way! Okay that was a little too much say but you catch my drift. Outgirl and I are Eminem groupies and are going to follow him around. I really connected with his words when I actually sat down and listened to them. Thankyou outgirl for opening another door for me. Oh yea...There is one thing that I can't stand in most of hiphop. It is when all the guys sag their pants past their knees! I hate that so much! that is really the only thing that I don't like. other than that keep it real and dont hate! MattyJ And to think, I remember the days not so long ago that my hip hop mama (now Debbie "Black," previously Debbie "Cracker") was telling me not to buy Eminem CD's because he hates queers. Now she pratically runs the fanclub. Now I have to steal back my Biggie and Tupac. She still doesn't really get Twista though. |
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Post by outgirl on May 6, 2004 17:05:53 GMT -5
And to think, I remember the days not so long ago that my hip hop mama (now Debbie "Black," previously Debbie "Cracker") was telling me not to buy Eminem CD's because he hates queers. Now she pratically runs the fanclub. Now I have to steal back my Biggie and Tupac. She still doesn't really get Twista though. First of all, I do get Twista, I just think all his shit sounds the same. I do like his new song though with that new chick that plays the hip hop violin. She's cool. I have to thank you for giving me my first Eminem cd to listen to. Up until then I believed what I read in the gay mags like the Advocate. That was a real eye opener for me. The Advocate was like the gay bible but then with Em's shit, I realized that they were just biased. It is easy to misinterpret when it's taken out of context. If I hadn't heard the Marshal Mathers lp, I would have spent the last year and half being some stupid lesbian listening to Melissa and the Dixie Chicks crying over my lost fuckin love. When I heard Kim, I related so well to the emotion and feelings in that song. When I sang "so long bitch", along wit Em it kinda helped justify my anger which was much healthier for me. So that is how a 47 yr old lesbian fell in love with hip hop. |
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Post by emilysrevolution on May 8, 2004 5:20:07 GMT -5
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...when he's around
